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February 16, 2005
What's the Real Deal?
I'm going to riff a little on what Madeline already wrote about Weinberger's distinctions of "real and more-real" in connetion with the web. I guess I want to trouble what Weinberg is saying a bit, too. His distinctinos seem a bit too neat, too clean , but as I write this I don't really want to disagree with Weinberg or take him to task, but rather, I want to illustrate what his work is reavealing to me about the nature of the real and can/should we ever get out of it.
I have been thinking specifically about The Gates while reading Wineberger. At first, they seemed the perfect example of the redefining of space and the movement between the part and the whole that Wineberger was discussing. Christo and Jeanne-Claude, in fact, have a very specific statement about how each part individually would only be a relic, and the whole of the project, where and when it is placed, each individual gate, their placement in relationship to the park and eachother, and the weather is the work of art. The exhibit is time and space bound, but that is in order to free it from the bounds of time and space, history and representation.
This reminded me of Weinberger's statement:
Because the linked pages come from many people, the Web turns into a place larger than we are. It is a public place, a place we can enter, wander, and get lost in, but cannot own (56).
Christo and Jeanne-Claude's work is the attempt to physically enact the ephemeral quality of linking on the web. The art was not merely about the arches and the curtains, but about how they all moved together in the weather. The specific part to whole relationship. But soon I found myself watching people across the park, or the very large dog who sat calmly while four small children circled and pet it for several minutes. I was quick to note people on cell phones, the castle in the center of the park where people stood looking over the park. I wanted an arial view, but I also wanted to just be in this moment -- the one that was a whirlwind of input and stimuli.
I took no pictures while I was wandering through the park, but here are many places you can see them . These pictures to me are quite telling of the whole experience. They show not only the gates as a whole, but single gates, and people (and dogs) moving through them. So like Christo and Jeanne-Claude say:
The work of art in The Gates is the entire environment, in this case Central Park and its surrounding environs. To experience the artwork, one immerses oneself into that environment. Each separate "gate" would be merely a relic of the artwork and not a work of art. Seven thousand, five hundred structures together in Central Park IS a work of art.
But all of this discussion leaves out the people because they become merely a part of the environment. A part of the structure, but not significant enough to place as a defining part of the art itself. What if no one came? Would The Gates have still been a work of art? Presumably for Jeanne-Claude, the answer would be yes because as she said to an NBC reporter the day before the gates were unfurled: "I don't care if you like it. Like it or don't. We do this because we like it, and that's enough for me." So The Gates then becomes part of a story of the artist whose primacy of vision is what matters. No matter how much the piece may disrupt time and space, it is the solitary vision that we seem to come back to -- the individual, the person.
According to Weinberger, however, this is not so much the case with the web. If we follow his argument, the web is driven by interest, but interests vary so you may not have the interest of many but you should always have the interest of a few. And it is this idea of smaller, more focused, and ever changing social groupings that makes the web seem more-real (or at least more human) to Weinberger. And if we leave it at that, it does sound like a pretty utopic and revolutionary space. BUT the people who participate, navigate, populate, and show their interest across the web have not changed.
So when Weinberger writes about Mahir, and how everyone loved his website because it was an example of human imperfection, he misses something crucial in this telling. The reason that this website was imperfect was its imperfect use of English. Thus we are confronted with our biases (be they racist or not) for standard English, or at least we notice something when it is not that way. This example, at least for me, shows how people bring their already preconceived biases to their interests, and therefore, we need to take care when we begin to sing the praises of how the web restructures human relationships. Just like my initial reaction to The Gates where I believed that this art was a new way of encompassing space and time all the while forgetting that it is still in contained space -- Central Park. So it is more useful for me to begin to see it as an illustration of the relationships that are often mystified by our concepts of time and space, instead of a replacement or remediation of them.
The more I read Weinberger, the more I see his text as doing just that. There are moments where he seems to be producing a utopian vision of the possibilities of the web, but then his choice of examples and the stories he tells disrupt that vision. It is the interplay between the real and more real nature of the web that interests me, and I believe that it interests Weinberger, too. It's not that the web will restructure human relations in totality, but it is that the web will help us understand our own humanity and systems which contain it more readily. And for me, that's plenty.
Posted by jlwingar at February 16, 2005 12:29 PM
Comments
since some of us (ok, maybe it's just me) know nothing at all about these gates, can you link a picture or something so that i know where to go? "gates" seems like an awfully broad search term to go looking under... thanks!
Posted by: tyratae at February 16, 2005 02:02 PM
oh. i'm stupid. there are pictures at the "statement" link. found them. ignore me. >sigh
Posted by: tyratae at February 16, 2005 02:04 PM
You might not be as stupid as you think : )! I had to edit and repost this a couple of times because of link and formatting issues, so that link may not have been there when you started. Oh, and you're not stupid -- no matter what you think.
Posted by: jenwingard at February 16, 2005 02:16 PM
Thinking about Cristo's installation in Central Park made me also think of the Burning Man Project as a possible analogy for the Web. The move to a desert site is clearly an effort to appropriate a space--a big space--in which an anarchic community of self-expression takes place. Yet the event is loosely subject to the laws of the land and originated in the purposes of a small group of individuals. I've never been, but I suppose it's subject to the beauties and horrors of humanity, just as the Web is. I guess you could call it community performance art.
Posted by: hj at February 16, 2005 08:13 PM
now i'm even more motivated to make that trip to nyc and check out the gates. i agree that weinberger does a good job of recognizing the problems and potentials of the web. i watched a report about christo and jeanne-claude, and they want the world to know that the gates arent' orange: they're saffron. anyway...
so how can the gates symbolize the problems and potentials? we can start with the name, right? the gates...the web as a gate...a gate that can allow entry or deny access...is the web that way? so it seems that i'm moving away from weinberger's discussion of time and shifting to space. all of this generated from metal and ceramic frames clothed in saffron-colored fabric...
Posted by: elisa at February 19, 2005 11:12 AM
Posted by: Derek at February 19, 2005 10:00 PM
Perhaps it is the cracker thing that is making Christo and Jean-Claude so insistent that the gates are saffron -- NOT orange. I challenge you to find a saffron snack cracker anywhere. I mean, I don't even think in the south where Jambalya is a staple would they have such a delicacy.
Posted by: jenwingard at February 19, 2005 10:45 PM