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February 02, 2005
a post-what WHAT?
brooks, nichols, & priebe characterize their students responses to using blogs in a variety of ways to extend classroom work into other writing opportunities as follows:
the generally positive response to weblogging that emerges despite these differences suggests that as the genres and motives for weblogging are understood more clearly, the practices has sufficient cultural and pedagogical appeal to encourage and motivate student writing even in a post-literate age.
i hit the end of that paragraph like the titanic on that infamous iceberg. a post-literate what? a post-what age? i'm beyond confused, but i think first that maybe i'm missing something; maybe this is one of those terms that seems transparent but in usage has come to masquerade as something else.
so i "google" "post-literate age,"--an activity, i hardly think i need to add, that involves a several-tiered process of textual negotiation requiring a great deal of print literacy (what i assume they're referring to) in addition to what others variously call "computer literacy" or "technology literacy"--and found two dominant explanations of the term. one distinguishes between a "scientific" & literal conception of language and a more poetic, fluid conception, applying the term "post-literate" to the latter; the other, which i'm assuming is what brooks, nichols, and preibe had in mind, can be exemplified by the following explanation in a 1997 essay by brian rotman:
We are at a juncture when computer technology, a medium as awesomely powerful, transformative, delimiting and invasive as writing once was, is changing the world forever; we've reached a point when 'writing', as the linguist Roy Harris put it, has 'dwindled to microchip proportions' [The Origin of Writing: ]. We are living in momentous times: the inventions spawned by computing and the digital logic that goes with it are gobbling, at an accelerating pace, ever larger chunks of human culture and rendering obsolete practices that have lasted for hundreds and sometimes thousands of years. As the medium of writing displaced orality and changed forever how humans encounter, respond and imagine each other, so the medium of computing, just as totally and relentlessly, is displacing literacy.
say what? i'm no less confused. everything i do with relation to computers is textual, literate, screen-print (most of it easily transferable to print-out). my geeky (no offense, anyone) coder/programmer friends spend all day writing--sometimes documentation in sentence form, sometimes memos and briefs in paragraphs, sometimes, yes, code, in a different language than the one i'm using now, but it's still a writen language system--it's still writing. it still requires literacy, where literacy = the ability to decode/make meaning from (theoretically definable as two very different things, i know, but i'm leaving that be for now) a visual collection of symbols representing word-based information.
how can that possibly be post-literate? when has any civilization ever in the history of the world made literate practices--reading, writing, whether on paper or on screen, usually both--more fundamental to its functionality? if anything, i'd call us uberliterate--but "post"? or is there something about what these writers mean by "computing" that's eluding me completely here? or is there some theoretical association with "post" not actually meaning "after b/c instead of" that i'm missing?
i've spent long enough looking for the context of the harris quote rotman's working with; i don't expect 1997 = 2005; i'm out of disclaimers. maybe instead of missing something i'm missing a lot of things. but... post-literate?
Posted by ttobryan at February 2, 2005 12:21 PM
Comments
Hi! I'm not in your class, but I understand your confusion and wanted to leave a quick comment. As I started reading your entry (and following the same double-take you experienced), I took "post-literate" to indicate an age in which electronic mediation has taken us away from print--the primary site of literacy.
But what's wonderful about the weblog for me as a teacher is that it uses one technology to draw students away from the non-literate technologies, e.g. television (bracketing for the moment that one may certainly be literate or not in this medium).
I agree with you--computers as we are actually using them are machines of uber-literacy. We read the internet. We watch it. We listen to it. And, to make it work for ourselves (however we define that rhetorically), we write it.
Posted by: acline at February 2, 2005 04:39 PM
Perhaps Brooks, Nichols, and Priebe's thinking is along the lines of Jeff Rice's (from this post, titled "Theories I Don't Believe In"):
# Literacy: It's not that I don't believe it ever was a useful way of understanding how individuals use and create information, I just don't believe it exists anymore. Technology has altered literacy to something else (we hear new media, electracy, e-literacies...what's in a name? It ain’t literacy). Harvey Graff did a good job exposing the literacy myth in terms of its economic pay off, but even still, the literacy narrative has become a conventional trope in composition studies. Mike Rose may it popular, but others, even in technology-oriented studies, continue to believe that the individual’s work with a computer is what determines some variant of (digital) literacy. People are not empowered only by learning a tool. What we have understood as literacy is more than the ability to learn how to make information because I can write or read. What we call literacy is built in the infrastructure, the apparatus. The infrastructure has changed so much since the end of the Second World War, that literacy narratives don't explain much anymore (and neither do "sponsors" of literacy").
I don't want to speak for Brooks, Nichols, and Priebe; I just thought you might find Rice's take insightful. He's criticized the idea of literacy a lot: here, here, and here, and in other posts. Search his blog for "literacy" if you want the whole corpus.
Posted by: Clancy at February 2, 2005 08:28 PM
You’ve just articulated (indirectly) a major professional frustration of mine. It has to do with how the “act” of writing is perceived by the professions, and how this perception compromises our ability to impress writing theory across disciplines (disciplines that serve these professions). I’m thinking specifically about engineering and education (funky coupling, eh?), but I’ll save that for some other time.
Two particular excerpts in the “Why Weblogs” article that dovetail with some of your comments. First, from the Kairos excerpt:
To them [students], the Internet and other forms of electronic discourse were not associated with their concept of "reading and writing" in the school sort of way. I imagine that this difference might be because one is "fun" and the other is "work." But regardless, I've come to feel that reading and writing the Web is a way for me to tap into a writing space that students already use--and more importantly, want to use.
Your point precisely! So why is so difficult to get students and professionals to understand that writing is invasive – it (arguably) the most critical activity they will perform in their academic and professional lives. Is it a matter of scale?
The second excerpt I found interesting came from Peter Ford:
Information and communication technology (ICT) prepares pupils to participate in a rapidly changing world in which work and other activities are increasingly transformed by access to varied and developing technology. Pupils use ICT tools to find, explore, analyse, exchange and present information responsibly, creatively and with discrimination. They learn how to employ ICT to enable rapid access to ideas and experiences from a wide range of people, communities and cultures. Increased capability in the use of ICT promotes initiative and independent learning, with pupils being able to make informed judgments about when and where to use ICT to best effect, and to consider its implications for home and work both now and in the future.
This comment reads like the kind of crap I have to write in white papers. Notice how the words “writing” or “write” or even “compose” or “author” appear no where in this guys lucid commentary. This, I think, is why the act of writing is so difficult to position and discussion in non-academic contexts. Who authors or puts to ether all of this information that will transform the way students rapidly create and learn while breaking down all of the traditional barriers?
Keep fighting the good fight T!
Posted by: mike at February 3, 2005 09:32 AM