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January 28, 2005

blogging (with) students

lowe & williams have--and link to--a lot of really productive ideas for using blogs in, instead of, alongside, etc. classrooms--as teaching tools, as interactive media, as semi-public spaces, as hybrid forms of journaling & peer collaboration...

and i'm really enthusiastic about these ideas. or at least i'm enthusiastic about them as ideas, as terrific ways for other people to engage other students in other blog projects. i don't have any intellectual reservations about class-wide blogs or individual blogs on class-wide aggregators, on closed or open systems... it sounds like an awful lot of play room with huge potential for using new spaces to get new students to do more of the "old" thing--writing--which of course is never really old, because it evolves along with its users and media...

but i have emotional reservations that i don't entirely understand.

i've had a personal blog--one that's not really a diary because i'm too conscious of who's in my audience, but that serves as a space to keep in touch with my far-off friends and talk primarily about things that are not academic--since 2002 (my goodness, i'm almost old school!), and i don't think i had it running for 24 hours before i started thinking about its implications as a classroom tool. so it's not like i was slow to catch on to the idea.

but since 2002 i've held off on implementing any of those ideas, and not because of the technology involved. (like blogger accounts, livejournal accounts are free, incredibly easy to set up, and terrifically user-friendly. they make closed communities easily, or can be left open. they have an array of who-can-view-this posting functions... all push-button accessible.)

i've held off for reasons having more to do (as i think about it now) with those shifting definitions of personal and private space. blogging with my students, when i imagine doing it, feels like an invasion. in both directions, to some degree. my blogspace is my blogspace--sharing it with friends is one thing, sharing it with a faceless, infinte public is another, but sharing it with students... there's a line there, and things change with its crossing. (i could certainly create an alternate "identity" to work with students online in, and never tell them that the ones i've used so far exist. there are ways to both be "out there" and invisible. but it feels like a place to me--too many viewings of tron as a child, perhaps--and unlike the supermarket, it's a place where teachers--as they appear in my head, however against my inclinations to say i don't see them this way at all--and students--in those same constructions--don't mix.) there's also a line the other way--i know most of my students have some kind of online identity, whether it's in a blogging community, through friendster, or just on instant messenger, and although i've started using IM to conference with students in the past few years, i'm still very respectful of the distance i perceive as appropriate. i almost never "ping" them to initiate conversations--if i do, it's to respond to a question i said i'd gather more information before answering.

i want them to have their world without me in it. the fact that it's in many ways an almost entirely textual (with bright pictures) world makes that more important to me as a writing teacher rather than less--i want to interact with them in ways that encourage/foster writing, sure. but (and maybe this is because all of my teacher-training was focused on the teaching of adolescents) i can't help feel that one of the most encouraging things i can do with regards to their writing is to leave them a space where they're alone--or at least alone-with an audience of their choosing & defining--alone away from me--to do it in.

(x-posted to c&a and compositionism)

Posted by ttobryan at January 28, 2005 07:12 PM

Comments

Excellent post, Tyra.

Let me say this: I think that this is one of the ways in which using the blog remakes (remediates) the classroom. Face it, being a teacher does not afford the convenience and neatness of a job that allows you to either be "on" or "off" the clock. You're always on.

And I think that your consideration of your students' "personal" spaces and "real" lives is quite generous; however, the university experience, the residential model where the student immerses herself in the pursuit of _____ (I'll let someone else fill that in), has been handily laid by the wayside for some time now. Using technology to better immerse students in their studies, I think, brings us back to that model where teachers and students literally lived as neighbors, shared meals (ok, now I'm waxing, uh, fictitious, probably), you get the pic. Where students learned by living through things, not by simply getting by, going to class, the library, writing some stuff, and getting the grade.

It's my job to ping my students, no? [It's VERY easy for me to say this right now, since I have no students of my own this semester.] [Wait, I kind of do. And we're blogging. :)]

Posted by: madeline at January 28, 2005 11:10 PM

re: i could certainly create an alternate "identity" to work with students online in, and never tell them that the ones i've used so far exist. there are ways to both be "out there" and invisible.

These few lines especially got me thinking again about the managed identity, psudonyms and public trajectories of the web. By no means am I settled yet in thinking this way, but I'd like to tentatively suggest that we must present ourselves in blogs as if we expect someone to make the connection (unless we leave no crumbs whatsoever). I strongly prefer to blog very little about my students because I expect them to follow the flight, piece together the clues, and discern that their teacher is, indeed, writing. And I guess this goes for other folks too (prospective employers, for another) who might Google a name and learn about web presence long before learning via any other bodily presence. I've never tried to anonymize myself online (except in a few goofy comments on other people's blogs, for kicks), and, at moments like the other day when a student *found* my blog *during* class and hollered "My god, it that your ankle?", I was in an awkwardly teachable moment--a moment where I was being read in ways I could never have predicted (could I?). Site stats tell me that my name (full and proper, first last) has, as a search query, solicited my blog eight times in January. Granted, other folks share this name (what are there, 20 other fine people named just like me), and I have no idea what these searches are for. But I try to blog as if students might search my name and, in searching, find my blog.

Posted by: Derek at January 29, 2005 08:48 AM

Hey, Tyra, you ought to think about sending a trackback to the Lowe & Williams article! The trackback URL is https://blog.lib.umn.edu/cgi-bin/blogosphere/mt-tb.cgi/5

Yeah, Derek, I definitely know what you mean. I'm something like #3 or 4 in a Google search just for "Clancy." Plus, my course site is a subdomain of my blog domain name, so if they hacked the URL they could easily find it. I write accordingly.

But I do have a pseudonymous online life too, like you said, Tyra, for far-off friends, in my case friends from home. I'm curious about the emotional reservations you mentioned; it's clear from reading your post that you don't really think the instructor has the panoptic gaze, the power to be omnipresent across the entire web. Students can have blogs and MySpace accounts and accounts on discussion boards that we don't know about, audiences of their own choosing, as you say, no problem at all.

I'm just interested in getting to the root of these questions you raise about emotional reservations and assumptions of public/private (and clarifying what those questions are), and I don't know if this response is at all helpful, but there it is.

Posted by: Clancy at January 31, 2005 12:51 AM

I'm new to the blogging thing, and have many mixed feelings about it, some of which came out in the notes I took for this weeks reading. Your comment, Tyra, reminded me of the comment from the kairosnews list, I think from Jay Cross, that weblogs give students complete ownership over their texts. I'm not sure that's entirely true when the weblog is part of a course assignment, for the reasons you offer above about being mindful of the audience. I think there needs to be some space between our students and ourselves too. As Madeline points out, when one teaches, one is always "on". It takes real effort to maintain some boundaries and reatin a sense of private life for oneself. I'm pretty open with what I tell my students about my academic experiences, but carefully reserved about my personal life. Blogging blurs that in some ways, and is probably part of why I resist the notion that a blog replaces a written "diary" or journal. I can't imagine giving up the latter in favor of the former. The latter feels truly private and owned to me. The former doesn't.

Posted by: Chris Geyer at February 1, 2005 09:27 AM